Bathroom Remodeling Checklist: Design, Tile, Glass, Plumbing, Waterproofing, and Comfort
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
When you are on the website, there are a lot of great features. You can see recent projects in the portfolio, and there are also links to Pinterest, Facebook, and Houzz. Houzz is an amazing tool if you are thinking about remodeling and looking for ideas.
Just head over to EdgeConstructionCompany.com, click that link, and when you come up with ideas and think, “You know what? I would like to remodel,” pick up the phone and call 608-636-3343. That is 636-EDGE.
Joining us in studio this morning is the owner of Edge Construction, Mike Twohig. Mike, how are you doing this week?
Mike:
Great, Sean. It is good to talk to you, as always.
Host:
We are talking bathroom remodels this week.
Real quick, I know you probably know the number, but you do a lot of bathroom remodels. That is a big thing you do.
One thing you have been doing more and more of is new construction. You shared some aerial photos with me from your drone of a new project. That has to be a lot of fun, doing that new construction work.
Mike:
It is.
We do not build a lot of houses through Edge. We are very involved in new construction for other builders in Dane County. We support the construction on over 500 new houses here for other builders. That is one part of Edge.
Then we build maybe one or two houses a year ourselves. They tend to be things that do not compete with that market, like a country house, something on the lake, or something unusual.
We have had projects where we tore down a house and built a new one in the same spot. We have one going on right now that is an old farmhouse. We have remodeled it once already. Now we are building a new house kind of right behind it on the same piece of land, and then the old house is going to come down.
Host:
Is that the one where I saw the pictures and there is a barn and some other things? That is a cool little area.
You mentioned where you fit in with new construction. Remodeling is what you do day in and day out. But some of the new projects you work on are truly custom. We hear the term “custom home builder” a lot, and sometimes it means selecting box A or box B.
These are truly custom projects, aren’t they?
Mike:
Usually, yes.
If we are building a house, it is usually a truly unique plan, and it takes a lot of hours in design to do that. You really need a homeowner who is committed to that process.
I think we added it up, and we had somewhere around 150 hours in CAD on this project, between the initial design and then modifying it throughout the project.
We actually designed a different house for this homeowner first, and it sort of fell apart because the wife was adamant that she wanted a big old front porch like old houses used to have. That threw us back to the drawing board. But that can happen sometimes.
Host:
You have mentioned previous customers. When it comes to new construction, are those often people you have worked with in the past?
Maybe you remodeled the house they were in, then they move to the next phase of life and say, “We want to build something new. We worked with you on a kitchen or bathroom remodel and loved your work. Can we start a conversation about a new project?”
Mike:
It certainly does not hurt if they have experience with us before.
About 20 percent of our business comes from people where we did their basement or bathrooms, and then they want us to come back and do their kitchen or some other involved remodel.
Building a new house is a really big commitment. People do not generally think of us first when they are going to build a new custom house, so a lot of times there is a connection one way or another. Either they know someone really well who worked with us, or there is some reason to trust us.
There are a lot of new builders out there, and there are some decent ones in Dane County. You still need to do your digging and your due diligence if you are going to build with anybody.
Just getting the house built, there are a lot of people who can do that. But everybody manages that process differently, so you want somebody who can really help you through the process.
Host:
We are talking this morning with Mike Twohig, owner of Edge Construction. The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is Edge Construction Company dot com.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We are talking about bathrooms this week and walking through a renovation checklist.
Mike, we started this conversation talking about bigger projects and complete construction. Bathrooms are no slouch. For such a small space, there is a lot of work that goes into planning and designing a bathroom. It is a substantial area, isn’t it?
Mike:
It is.
A lot of times people ask, “Why does it take so long to do a bathroom?”
It just depends on what you are doing.
Think of all the problems a bathroom has, and most of them are related to water. It has a lot of systems. You have heat, plumbing, and electrical. Almost everything gets upgraded, or should get upgraded, when you are doing a bathroom.
If you look at some of the after pictures of our bathrooms, you might think, “That is really nice.” But to know the true story, you have to dig a little deeper and look at what we started with.
A lot of times our customers or potential customers are looking at the before pictures and asking, “How could you come up with a design based on what was already there?”
Bathrooms get hard use, and water is involved. Especially with some of the baths that are not seen by friends and relatives, it is hard to spend that money and hard to be without that space for as long as it takes.
So they tend to get put off, and a lot of times they are pretty rough before we get to them.
Host:
One thing I notice when you go to EdgeConstructionCompany.com and see those before-and-after photos — thank goodness you have that slider to help people envision it — is how dramatic the transformations are.
With bathrooms, have we seen more of a shift in tastes and styles compared with some other common remodeling areas?
Maybe it is just that different products are available, but when I look at your portfolio and the work you have done, bathrooms used to kind of all look similar in the 1980s and 1990s. Now we see different tile, different glass, different types of baths and showers.
It feels like what is available for bathrooms has exploded, even in the last 10 years.
Mike:
It has, and it is really fun.
It is a space where you can take some chances on design.
I am looking at the last bathroom that showed up on EdgeConstructionCompany.com. If you go to that first picture, it will take you to it. It has a beautiful blue cabinet.
Would I want a whole house full of blue cabinets? I am not sure. But in a smaller space, it really works.
You mentioned the tile options. This one also has a really unique glass door. You might think, “How unique can glass be?” But it is very cool.
It is all those little things that come together when that design happens.
We had a discussion this week about our suppliers. Our design team, led by Heather, is constantly being updated on things that are coming out. We go to shows to see what is in style and what the new products are.
You also have to keep your showroom updated. In the 1980s, they probably made the same earth-tone tan tiles for 10 years, and if you broke one, you could just go to the store and grab another one.
Those days are gone.
There are a lot more options now, but they are also not staying in production forever. It is a constant job to keep the showroom updated so we always have current things that are available and that we can get when we need them.
They also need to fit into budgets, but those options are not stopping, and it is resulting in some great bathroom pictures.
Host:
You mentioned how you used to be able to run down to the big-box store and replace something.
When you have extra tiles, do you leave those with homeowners? If something gets dropped and a tile breaks, do they have replacements?
Mike:
You bet.
We want to leave several tiles, maybe a full box if we can. We have actually been in situations where we ask, “Do you have a few extra tiles?”
Sometimes people like their bathroom floor and it is in good repair. Maybe we are fixing everything else and it is more of a surface remodel, but we know we are going to damage some things when we start tearing out tubs and other fixtures.
If somebody has those tiles, keep them.
Actually, do not get rid of the grout either. That old bag of grout that feels like a solid brick can sometimes still help. Believe it or not, we may take a hammer and break that thing up because matching grout can sometimes be harder than matching tile.
Subtle changes really show up. That old grout can usually be revitalized enough to make small repairs.
Host:
Today I learned. I did not know that.
When you were talking about tile, I was also thinking about kitchens, wood floors, and the amount of work and technique that goes into hiding where a wall used to be. I imagine that is true in bathrooms with tile too.
You mentioned the glass on the project at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. Are those barn doors? It looks like they are on little rollers. Am I seeing that correctly?
Mike:
You are seeing that correctly.
That is something our supplier offers. I will give a shoutout to Todd at Mid-Wisconsin Glass. His company does most of this type of work in town. They are great to work with.
They show you tons of options. A lot of times, our homeowners will say, “I saw this online,” and bring that to us or to our supplier.
Todd will say, “Let me see what I can do,” and he can usually get close or provide the actual product they found online.
Host:
Do we see a lot of frameless glass? I do not know if that is the technical term, but especially with showers, it seems like those really nice glass panels are being used a lot.
Mike:
We do, and there are advantages.
If you do frameless glass, you do not end up with that top rail. If you are six foot three like I am, that top rail is right about forehead level.
I love the look. Would it be practical for me? I do not know. I am sure my wife could talk me into it if she really wanted it.
The key is a good-quality product, something that will last a long time. When you look at this product, it says quality. It does not look like something that is going to wear out. It is going to look good for a long time.
I also want it to add to the design. To me, frameless glass shows off the tile work, and we do that, so I love that.
If you are going to stray off the path, something like this works because it adds to the design and fits well with the rest of the fixtures.
Host:
Does it also help make the bathroom feel less confined? Bathrooms are usually smaller spaces, so does glass help open them up?
Mike:
Yes.
There are a ton of options for that glass now, too. Everything from rain glass, where you can see somebody behind it but it is not clear, to other glass types.
It is also much easier to keep clean now because we can treat things to make it work well. You can shade areas if you want. There are a lot of options.
Host:
Is glass like countertops, where each job is unique and custom? Are you deciding where the handle goes and what the dimensions are?
Mike:
Yes.
Anytime tile is involved, it is a custom deal.
Our people here in town measure it and walk you through it. You get to make some of those decisions: which way you want it to open, how big the door should be, what metal finish you want, and all of those details.
Then the glass is custom measured, cut here, sent off to be treated, brought back, and installed by the people here.
Host:
Really fascinating stuff.
We are talking this morning with Mike Twohig, owner of Edge Construction. The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is Edge Construction Company dot com.
If you have not been there recently, definitely check it out. We have referenced a recent master bathroom remodel a couple of times this morning, and you will want to see that.
While you are there, check out the links to Pinterest, Facebook, and Houzz.
If you are thinking about remodeling, Mike and the team would love to talk with you. Call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We will talk more about bathroom remodeling next as the Home Remodeling Show with Edge Construction continues right here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We are talking this week about bathroom remodeling and the checklist that comes with renovating a bathroom.
Mike, real quick, I do not want to out anybody or make anybody uncomfortable. You do before-and-after photos. Do people ever say, especially with bathrooms, “Maybe do not show the before”?
Mike:
We have not had anybody say we could not do it, but we would obviously honor anyone’s wishes.
Actually, I take that back. I think there have been a few jobs where we have not shown the before photos. I am not sure what the reason was. Maybe at the time, the homeowner was a little embarrassed.
These things get out of control at some point, and I do not blame them.
We were joking during the break about some of the bathrooms we grew up with. When you are using it, I guess you are not thinking it is that bad. Then when you get the new space and look back at those old pictures, you think, “Oh, it was pretty rough.”
Usually people are pretty gracious about that, but we would definitely respect someone’s wishes if they did not want us to show the before photos.
Host:
As you mentioned earlier, bathrooms that are not always seen by visitors tend to get put off.
They also go through a lot of wear and tear: heating, humidity, cooling, and water. I want to ask about that.
One of the things that has revolutionized the work you do at Edge Construction is some of the things people do not see — the things behind walls that keep the space contained and protect the overall structure of the house.
There are newer systems and products that make a bathroom remodel not just good for the bathroom, but good for protecting the rest of the house too.
Mike:
Right.
When you have the chance to work on a bath like this, there is a lot that happens behind the drywall that you need to pay attention to.
The first thing I am going to look at when I walk into your bathroom is the bath fan. I will probably look up and say, “What a terrible bath fan.”
Everybody seems to have installed the same kind of bath fan because it was about $35.
Host:
Does it start with a B?
Mike:
It does. And they do make better products.
We use Panasonic products. If that cheap bath fan only moves 40 CFM, it is really not enough to get the job done. It also sounds like a plane taking off when you turn it on.
If we can buy a Panasonic one for a little over $100, and it moves 110 CFM quietly, that is a great upgrade.
We have had lots of customers call and say their bath fan is not working. We tell them to turn it on and hold a piece of paper up to it. It will draw the paper right up into the fan. It really is that quiet.
If you have bath fan envy, and you do your bathroom, you are going to get a new fan.
But there is also stuff behind the walls.
Sometimes we open those walls and find galvanized pipe. Wherever we find a connection, we scrutinize it. If you have two pipes coming together, maybe tailing off and going to a different room, we are going to evaluate that.
Most of the time, we are going to want to replace those and put new stuff in. We certainly want to put new valves on.
I think this is one of the biggest failings of bathroom remodelers. There are people around town who will do more of a surface remodel, and we get call after call about valves failing.
Whenever we have a chance to get our hands on it, we are going to put new valves in so we have something we can trust.
Water corrodes things. Water carries things that can crust up the inside of galvanized pipe. So we want to get rid of that galvanized pipe when we can.
We are also going to fix past sins. If we pull a tub out and say, “I really do not like how they did this trap,” that little U-shaped thing underneath your tub drain, we want to replace that.
Wiring codes have changed somewhat. It used to be that you could do a bunch of different things with GFCI outlets and probably feed too many different areas. We tend to put in dedicated circuits for certain things.
Sometimes we look at something and say, “This is done well. We can use what is here.”
But if you have a bath fan with a light, it is okay to use a normal circuit for that. If you want to include heat for that bath fan, which more people seem to want now, that has to be a home run to the panel.
We have to come all the way from the panel on its own breaker and dedicated circuit to serve that heat fan.
There are a lot of mechanical things that happen behind the wall. Even if your bath is on an outside wall, we want to look at that too.
Host:
You mentioned galvanized pipes. What was the problem with galvanized pipe? Is it buildup?
Mike:
If you take apart 50-year-old galvanized pipe, it is super gross.
If you look inside, it will be about half the capacity it used to be because of mineral deposits. Weirdly, there is bacteria that eats on those minerals. It is sort of like the inside of an oyster when you look in there. You think, “I am drinking this?”
Host:
Do you have galvanized pipe in your house?
Mike:
We do.
Host:
I do too. Gosh, I may need to give you a call.
Mike:
When we are getting our hands on stuff, we look at it.
We have been in older homes where they had PVC for supply lines, galvanized, PEX, and other materials. You can have four different types of pipe, including copper.
There is nothing wrong with copper. It is just that those solder joints do not last forever. I say that cautiously because some seem to last forever and a day.
The new wave, to me, is the PEX-type system, the red and blue pipe. You can theoretically have one line coming from your supply all the way to the endpoint without a break. It can go around corners. There are ways to make it go around corners, up through walls, and through the house.
You have fewer joints, and joints tend to be the failing point.
Host:
Does that also make it easier to identify hot and cold lines with the red and blue? And since it is one solid piece, is it much less likely to have an issue from the source to the faucet?
Mike:
Right.
To me, it makes sense that there are fewer chances for problems.
They call it a manifold in the basement. On really clean jobs, you have a supply coming into a manifold, almost like a candelabra of pipes coming out. You have lines going in all different directions to hit all those supplies.
In a house, you might have hot and cold for a few baths. That might be six lines. Then you have a sink or two. Now you are at 10. That is a common number.
Those might be the only joints in those pipes all the way up to the supply line. So you are much less likely to have joint problems.
When PEX first came out, the warranty was somewhere around 100 years. I do not think they say that anymore. To me, if you are saying 100 years, you might as well just say forever.
Another thing plumbers know about PEX is that copper, when it gets cold, will freeze very quickly if your furnace goes out while you are on vacation. The water can break the copper line.
It can still happen with PEX, but it is much less likely. It can handle more stress.
Host:
When you talk about the design of a PEX system, what about hot water recirculation? Am I remembering that correctly?
Mike:
Yes.
Think about when your water heater is on one end of the house and your bath is on the other end. You turn on the hot water, and then, like the Seinfeld thing, you go do your shopping and come back, and the hot water finally gets there.
It feels wasteful because you are running all that water down the drain.
You can have a recirculation pump for hot water. It is a small pump, and you have an extra line going to that shower or bathroom on the other end of the house. It constantly recirculates hot water.
You might think, “Now I am heating water I am not using.”
But if you look at a standard hot water heater, it is going to kick on and heat. If you are draining hot water out and putting cold water into that tank, the tank has to heat again.
If you are just recirculating hot water, you are not really going through that same drain-down process.
It may cost a little more energy to run, but not as much as people think. There is some installation cost, and you have to put a pump on one end or the other. Generally, it goes by the mechanicals.
It is a pretty slick system.
With low-flow faucets now, you cannot just turn on a faucet and move gallons of water quickly. It takes a while to move all that water through. If it takes more than 30 seconds to get hot water, it might be something to think about.
Host:
Being able to hop into the shower without waiting, without doing the hand-under-the-water test, sounds pretty nice.
We are talking this morning with Mike Twohig, owner of Edge Construction. If you are looking at updates, whether it is your bathroom, kitchen, living space, basement, or something else, Mike and the team at Edge Construction would love to talk with you.
Pick up the phone and call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
We will continue our conversation here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We are talking about bathroom renovations and putting together a checklist of things to think about if you are planning to remodel your bathroom.
Mike, before the break, we talked about some of the improvements when it comes to things you do not see.
I know there are membranes and other products that go underneath tile. Before I met you, I thought tile was impervious to moisture and held water back. It definitely does not. There are some really good products that you use at Edge Construction to keep the dry things dry.
Mike:
Tile actually is pretty impervious, but grout is not.
Grout is basically cement. If you look at cement under a microscope, you will see a lot of space in there. Water is not going to run through grout on tile, but it can work its way through over time.
When we tear apart older baths, we see evidence of that.
If we do a bathroom now, there are a bunch of different membrane systems we can use. The company that really put itself on the map is Schluter. It is the orange stuff.
If you have watched This Old House or any remodeling show, you have probably seen it. The first thing they are doing is building that shower with orange membranes.
I know they have competing products, but it is hard to use something else from my standpoint because our suppliers have every option they offer: inside corners, outside corners, tapes, and all the different things we need.
That company has also done a great job with education. I can send my people to a two-day free seminar, and they go through all the techniques to use their products and build a shower.
Our theory is that the tile you see is just the artwork. The actual shower is behind there. The thing that stops the water is the membrane.
The better you do with that, the longer the shower will last.
It is also a great substrate to lay tile on. We can get it flat, and the grout really grabs onto those products.
When we do heated floors, it is with the Schluter system. It is almost like small pucks that you wind the wire through in a custom fashion. You can get the heat wherever you want it and tile right over the top.
Host:
You mentioned in-floor heat. That has been a bit of a revolution. I know we have talked about it for years now, but what a great thing to have — a warm floor to step onto when you get out of the shower.
Mike:
Yes.
With smart thermostats, if you get up at 6, you can have your floor start warming at 5:30 and shut down at 7 or whatever works for you.
It does not use a lot of electricity. It is a really efficient way to do it. You get up onto a warm floor, and then it turns back off.
There are great ways to do this now.
Host:
We are talking this morning with Mike Twohig, owner of Edge Construction. The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
It is a great website and resource to learn more about Edge Construction. You can also check out their work. They update it regularly, so if you have not been there recently, it is definitely worth stopping by.
There are also links to Houzz, Pinterest, and Facebook.
If you are thinking about remodeling, call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We were talking earlier about recirculating hot water. What about on-demand water heaters? Are those a gimmick, or do you see them?
Mike:
We do see those.
The first one we put in was probably 20 years ago. I had a chance to get back into that house this year, and that thing is still going strong. It was a Bosch unit. I think they were one of the first ones out with it.
Those Germans really make good stuff.
It has worked well and has not had any issues.
The homeowners had two high schoolers at one time who loved to take showers at the same time, and they never ran that thing out of hot water. So those systems have real advantages over the traditional system.
Host:
That is great to hear.
We are going to talk a little bit more with Mike about bathroom remodels. Check out some of the recent work at EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
If you are thinking about remodeling, pick up the phone and call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We will talk a little about insulation, and we should also talk about some of the fancy and neat stuff you see in bathrooms.
The Home Remodeling Show with Edge Construction continues right here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
It is a great website and resource to learn more about Edge Construction. There are also fantastic links to Pinterest, Houzz, and Facebook. If you have not checked out Houzz, head over there through EdgeConstructionCompany.com. You will see the little green “H” that looks like a house.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
Before we start talking about the pretty stuff, I want to ask about insulation.
People do not always think about insulation, but we talked in the last segment about heated floors. If you are in the bathroom near an outside wall and that wall feels cold, that affects your overall comfort, doesn’t it?
Mike:
It does.
There are things we can do to make that better.
The first line of defense is making sure the insulation is in good repair.
A lot of times we are not opening that wall, or maybe only opening a small portion. If we open it up and see problems, we are probably going to tear off that drywall and redo it.
If we open the wall and see little spots of daylight coming through, maybe because it is old wood siding with knot holes or gaps, most of the time we want to spray closed-cell foam.
We call it flash-and-batt. We shoot maybe an inch or inch and a half of foam on there, then put batt insulation on the inside of it.
We can get up close to R-20 even in an older 2×4 wall. It also stops air infiltration in those tough spots. That really helps.
Host:
A couple of weeks ago, we talked about bathtubs and insulation. Modern tubs can hold heat much better, right?
Mike:
They can.
There are a couple of different ways to go with freestanding tubs. They have sort of taken over the internet and are showing up on a lot of our jobs when we have room to get them in.
The entry level is usually a fiberglass unit. Many of the normal ones are a two-piece unit. We mount something on the floor, and then the top part you see slides over it.
It holds heat okay.
But the step up from there is what I will call a resin tub. I am sure there are different names for all of this, but resin is like acrylic. It is a poured product. They pour it into a mold, and it solidifies.
Some of these resin tubs look like a normal tub, but they are super heavy. They might be 250 or 300 pounds, even with thin walls around three-quarters of an inch thick.
The advantage is that those resin tubs really hold heat.
Yes, you pay more. Yes, your remodeler is going to whine when we have to carry it in there. But it is a really nice upgrade.
Host:
Back in the first segment, you mentioned the recent bathroom remodel at EdgeConstructionCompany.com with the blue cabinets. You pointed out that with a bathroom, people are often a little bolder with design.
One thing that is important, especially with bathrooms, is the environment. Cabinets in bathrooms are exposed to humidity and other things. You do not want to skimp on any cabinet, but you especially want a good-quality cabinet in the bathroom.
Mike:
I think that is a good idea because there is a lot of humidity, and it changes throughout the day quite a bit.
We try to stay away from particleboard products. I have probably bored you to death with that, but particleboard takes on more moisture than plywood-box cabinets.
Our manufacturers both offer plywood boxes, and we do everything we can to use those. It is hard to get 100 percent away from particleboard in today’s world. Probably 95 percent of our cabinets are not particleboard. Once in a while, it creeps in because it is the only option from the manufacturer.
Beyond that, a really good paint job matters.
When we took on Great Northern, our newer supplier, we worked into them over the last few years. They are a northern Wisconsin cabinet maker, and they do a fantastic job.
Every part of their process is managed. We continue to be impressed with their product.
It is a company that is not trying to find a newer, cheaper way to build a cabinet. As companies get bigger, that seems like how it often goes.
Their paint process really impressed me. They are not skimping. They do a great process. They are not shy about putting on the paint, and then they bake on that finish. I think that is the best result you can ask for.
Host:
Are there special paints used in bathrooms?
Mike:
Yes, we use some harder paints.
Flat paint is not as hard as eggshell. The trick is to get the flat look without having a shiny paint.
Shiny paint is very washable and hard, but most people do not want to look at it because it is not very attractive.
Our manufacturers — we use the two big ones around here, Sherwin-Williams and Benjamin Moore — have increased the hardness on their flats and satins so we can use those in bathrooms.
I probably would not do that on a ceiling because that is a different stress on the paint, but we are not afraid to use those on the walls.
Host:
Before we wrap up, I want to ask about the recent remodel we have been referencing.
The shower has really nice glass, but two areas I always think are cool are the bench and the niche. This one has a cool corner bench and a niche with different tile that is framed in.
Those are things that add great functionality and character to a bathroom space.
Mike:
Yes.
We do our best to get a nice niche in wherever we can. Sometimes it is tough.
Usually, I would expect to see a bigger niche in there. We custom-make our niches, so we are not bound by 12-by-12 or 12-by-24 sizes.
We sometimes vary the size based on the tile going in there. If there is an accent tile in the niche, sometimes it looks just right at a certain size to fit that tile.
I know in this house, we did another bath around the backside of this one, and the two showers met up. The niches had to work together a little bit, and that is probably why there is not a bigger niche in this one.
Host:
Things you would never think about.
Mike:
Exactly.
Host:
We have been talking this week with Mike Twohig of Edge Construction. Speaking of things you never thought about, you would be amazed what can be done with home remodeling.
The team at Edge Construction would love to talk with you.
Pick up the phone and call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
Edge Construction brings you the Home Remodeling Show right here on 1310 WIBA.