Basement Remodeling: Design, Comfort, Wet Bars, Flex Spaces, and Moisture Control
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
It is a great website and resource to learn more about Edge Construction. Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
Joining us in studio this morning is Mr. Mike Twohig of Edge Construction. Mike, how are you doing this week?
Mike:
Great, Sean. It is good to see you.
Host:
We are going to talk basements this week. We are going to the basement.
Mike:
Let’s go to the basement.
Host:
We are talking basement projects, and one of the notes says “anything but boring basements.”
Real quick on basements and using that title: basements are a place where people can step out of the lane a little bit. You do not want to get too crazy, generally, but that is an area that allows a little more flexibility as far as design. Am I off on that?
Mike:
No, it is.
If you go through the design process, whether you are building a new house or remodeling your kitchen, you are going to see a lot of different products and options.
One of the things we notice is that people will see things they really like, but they might feel like those choices are too risky to put on the main floor. Maybe they are a little too wild.
A lot of times, if we are doing the basement, those things show up down there because people feel like it is an area where they can take some chances on design.
Host:
It is kind of like bonus space. We are lucky here in Wisconsin that a lot of homes have basements. It almost feels like this extra little gift. If you have the space and you are going to do something with it, why not step out a little bit?
Mike:
I do not think that is a bad idea.
A basement definitely has a different feel. We do everything we can to at least match the finishes upstairs in the rest of the house, but it still feels cozy.
The trend for a while, except for maybe the last few years, was to be pretty conservative on design, especially in the basement. Now people are stepping out of the box a little bit, and it is a place where you can do more.
Host:
I think of the basement as having great benefits for remodeling, but there are also unique challenges.
All challenges can be overcome, but when it comes to planning basement design, especially with what you do at Edge Construction, you are addressing some unique environments.
When you talk about the overall finish and the quality of things, you want to make sure everything you are putting in there is done right. Just like every other project you do at Edge Construction, you are addressing underlying issues. Basements can have unique considerations and challenges, can’t they?
Mike:
They do.
Depending on the vintage of your house, you can run into challenges everywhere. If you have an older house, we have challenges everywhere. We are working on some things downtown right now in older buildings, and it is a whole different host of problems.
But the theory is the same.
Design needs to make sense for people who were not standing there in the old space.
When you are looking at a basement with low ceilings and a bunch of heat runs running through it, you have to ask: How do we light it? Do we need another window?
You need to design it comprehensively so it makes sense down the road.
The worst thing, and I would probably hate this too, is if I designed something and all my friends and relatives came to look at every project we do and second-guessed it. That is my nightmare.
When you are designing, it needs to make sense to people who did not go through the design process. That is such an advantage of working with a good designer. They help you avoid those pitfalls.
Internally, we have a saying that design is really about how the space is going to feel later on when it is done.
So if we have low ceilings and a bunch of soffits to deal with, how can we light this and make it feel better? Maybe we need to add another window to make it feel better. There is a lot you can do to make things feel more finished.
Host:
Depending on when the home was built, modern homes often have unfinished basements that seem like they were designed with the possibility of being finished someday.
The house I grew up in is probably coming up on 200 years old now, and I do not think there was ever an intention that someone would finish the basement. Maybe it was for beets and potatoes.
Mike:
That was our house. We have an old farmhouse in the country and have been there for over 30 years.
My wife has joked that if she can see the tornado coming at us, she still does not know if she is going down there.
Host:
Sounds like you have some basement issues.
With modern houses, though, even if the basement is not finished as part of the new build, they often think, “This space could be finished someday.”
Mike:
Definitely.
In the 1980s, when I got rolling in construction, builders were starting to rough in plumbing for a potential bath at some point. Maybe they were putting in nine-foot ceilings. People were starting to say, “In case we ever do something, we will add another foot to the foundation walls.”
But if you look back at houses from the 1950s and even some 1940s houses where they started pouring foundations, we have done some really fun, nice jobs finishing those basements because it is almost a normal situation. You have the poured wall, you have eight-foot ceilings, and you have a way to make it work.
It is when we go older that we start to struggle. Sometimes we have stone walls to deal with. Sometimes we do not have headroom.
I believe the code is that you have to have an 84-inch, or seven-foot, ceiling height in more than 50 percent of the space you want to finish.
There are houses around Madison that were built in the 1960s with an 80-inch ceiling height. We have tried to get permits for basements like that in the last year or two, and that one is tough.
I understand the reason for codes, but with that one, I would love to pin those people down and ask why they wrote it that way. We are trying to improve the house and give people a little more living space. If we can do it safely and logically, I think there should be some exceptions.
Staircases are another one. If we are looking at a house that is over 50 years old, chances are the stairs going to the basement are not going to be code.
A lot of times, they work pretty well. They are okay, and homeowners ask if we can fix them up.
It depends. If we are talking to the inspector, the code basically says if you touch it, you bought it. There is not much in between. There is full compliance with the code on stairwells, and then there is what it is now.
Up until now, those stairways have been grandfathered in, so we do what we can to make them nicer, but sometimes there is not much we can do.
Host:
When I was younger and went to friends’ houses that had “finished basements” from the 1970s and 1980s, the standard was very different. It was wood paneling, maybe a drop ceiling, maybe a checker tile floor, and maybe a bumper pool table.
People’s standards are very different now, aren’t they?
Mike:
Right.
Some of this is code-driven. If we are going to put drywall up everywhere, we have to put in outlets and lights per code. If we are drywalling the ceiling, inspectors will want us to make sure it is heated correctly.
Insulation is subject to inspection, and the list keeps going.
If you are going to make this investment, then we start talking about design. You do not want to do this again every 20 years. You want to get it right the first time and have it last a long time.
It is really worth having great design.
And honestly, it does not cost that much more to go to a really nice level of finish than it does to do a poor level of finish. It is kind of the same amount of work.
I always beat the drum for good design and the value of designers, but they really can help you navigate that process.
Host:
We are talking this morning with Mike Twohig, owner of Edge Construction. Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
You can learn more online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is Edge Construction Company dot com.
One thing I want to ask you about as we talk about finishing and remodeling basements is cost savings. Some of the major parts of building a room are already there, aren’t they?
Mike:
They are.
You are talking about a roof and a foundation. That stuff is already there.
When we are finishing basements, it is almost like another smaller house down there. We have a great room, a kitchenette, a bathroom, and maybe a bedroom or two. It has all the elements.
Lucky for you, most of the time the heating system was sized large enough to handle that basement space.
That basement space is also a little easier to heat and cool because you are in a 55-degree hole in the ground. It is easy to cool, obviously. It does not heat up as much. And if it is 10 below zero and your furnace quits working, you are not going to be comfortable in the basement, but you probably are not going to freeze to death.
There are a lot of advantages.
We were looking internally this week at the cost to build new houses from 10 or 15 years ago. For a long time, $150 a foot was a standard. Now we are about double that. Costs have gone up so much in the last few years, and that makes finishing basement space attractive.
You cannot finish a basement for what you could five years ago either, but a lot of the basic things are already in place, and that helps you out.
It is a great buy.
We have a lot of people who come in thinking they want an addition, and we say, “If we can get you 80 percent of the way there by finishing your basement and showing you the possibilities down there, that is a pretty good buy.”
Additions are quite a step up in cost, so it is worth looking at the basement space.
Host:
Do people sometimes look at those savings and decide to spend a little more on fun things?
Maybe they say, “If we can save 20 percent or save a certain amount by using the basement, maybe we will put that toward a really nice pool table or rec room feature.”
Things you do not necessarily need, but they would be a lot of fun to have.
Mike:
It is fun.
Some of that fun stuff is making its way back in.
Throughout my career in construction, I have seen design get more practical and utilitarian, and then we go through times where the fun creeps back in.
I was at a trade show this summer, and one vendor had shuffleboard tables.
Host:
You can see the face I am making.
Mike:
You want one badly.
Host:
I love shuffleboard. It is one of my favorite games.
Mike:
These things, and pool tables, were works of art. The craftsmanship was really cool.
I would not say it was overpriced. I felt like you got a lot for your money.
The biggest crowds were in that area. We have all this cool construction stuff, cabinets, and other things, but people were saying, “I am going over here to play pool and shuffleboard.”
I think we are starting to see more of that again.
Host:
Is some of this driven by people staying longer where they are?
They are saying, “We are going to be here for 20 or 30 years. Let’s make this a destination spot in the house.”
Mike:
I am sure COVID had something to do with that. People were spending maybe too much time in their houses.
That turn-and-burn philosophy we had for quite a while in the 1990s and early 2000s appears to have gone away. I think that is super healthy for housing.
I do not know if there are still flip shows on TV, but I hope not. If you are in construction, you do not really like that philosophy of putting in the cheapest stuff and saddling the next person with it.
If we are not moving every five or seven years, there is a lot of incentive to make your space better.
Host:
How about heating in the basement?
Heat rises, so are heating systems for basements designed differently than on the main floor, or is it still the same concept?
Mike:
Part of it is convenience.
Upstairs, your heat is generally coming out near the outside of the house, and your return air is on the inside of the house. The theory is that heat rises, but your returns are low, so the heat coming out of the vents is drawn toward the return across the living space.
In the basement, in our finished basements, the heat will generally come out of the ceiling.
There is a six-inch galvanized pipe behind the ceiling that feeds that heat run. Every time you put an elbow in there and make it turn right or left, you lose some efficiency.
In theory, we could pipe up, put an elbow on, head all the way to the outside wall, and pipe back down. But then we have another elbow and eight or ten feet more pipe, so you start to lose efficiency.
So we drop the heat out of the ceiling because it is probably the best we can do, and then our returns are low. We tend to do central returns in the basement. Instead of returns everywhere, we draw to one spot fairly near the furnace.
Other things help too. If you insulate those outside walls, even if you do not have to, your basement will feel better and heat better.
About half the basements we do now have a separate thermostat down there. If you are not going to be down there until the weekend, why heat it? Then you can do whatever you want based on when you are going to use the space.
Host:
I knew I would learn something. I do not think I have ever asked you that before.
Obviously, there is a lot of design and planning that goes into every aspect of the basement.
We are going to talk more about basement remodels and some of the great things Edge Construction can do. If you have not had a chance to check out the website, EdgeConstructionCompany.com has great examples of basement projects.
Do not forget to check the links to Facebook, Pinterest, and Houzz. Houzz is a huge one, and it links right from EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
If you are thinking about remodeling, whether it is the basement, kitchen, or an addition, Mike and the team would love to talk with you.
Pick up the phone and call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
Edge Construction brings you the Home Remodeling Show right here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
It is a great website to learn more about Edge Construction, and there are fantastic links to Pinterest, Facebook, and Houzz.
If you are thinking about doing some remodeling, call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
We were talking about food during the break, and in the last segment you mentioned that people with basements are often making little apartments down there.
Does that include food preparation areas in basements? Maybe pizza ovens?
Mike:
If I was going to do it, that would be the majority of my cooking.
But yes, there are things like air fryers. People are into that. We have an air fryer thanks to our in-laws last year, and it is amazing that somebody like me can actually make something in an air fryer.
I think it is more about that. It is rare that we put a full stove or oven down there. But dishwashers, microwaves, and built-in appliances are more common.
It used to be almost all beverage fridges. Now I would say it is 50/50 with full-size fridges.
I get it. I do not know why we have so much stuff, but an extra fridge is super handy, even if it is not just for soda and beer in the basement. It gives you extra storage.
Maybe some liquor. I do not know what people are putting down there.
In Madison, there is a large group of people who are not originally from here. Maybe they came for school and stayed. A lot of people seem to be from the East Coast, and their relatives come and stay. They might stay for a couple of weeks or shorter, but a basement space becomes valuable.
Sean and I are on the same team. We need to be away from people once in a while.
If you are staying at someone’s house, it can feel weird walking into their fridge or cabinets to grab something. But a basement space can feel different. It is a little more casual, and if someone is staying there, it can almost feel like a small apartment.
Host:
Do we still see wet bars? Is that still a thing? I feel like it ebbs and flows. Are those making a comeback?
Mike:
Wet bars are making a comeback.
There are other reasons for that too. People have hobbies. There are people who are into making things, crafting, painting, and other activities.
It is really nice to have a sink in the basement, even if you are not cooking.
For people who entertain a lot, it is helpful. There is a wide range of uses.
When you really look at it, the only difference between a dry bar and a wet bar is that the wet bar has a sink. You already have cabinets, probably a fridge, and maybe a dishwasher.
If you are putting in the countertop, it is not that much more to run a couple of pipes. Usually we can get to it fairly easily and have a sink there.
If you have kids, every kid I have ever seen makes messes.
Host:
What about flex space?
If you have company over, and maybe your in-laws are staying for a few days, that space may not be used as a small apartment the rest of the year. Do we still see a big desire for flex space in the basement?
Mike:
We do.
Flexible space in the basement right now usually looks like a bedroom-slash-office. That is probably the most common thing we are seeing.
People are doing Murphy beds or other systems where they can move back and forth. That is pretty cool.
Valuable space in a basement needs to do more than one thing. That is pretty important.
Your relatives might come once a year, so you do not need a full-on apartment for them all the time. But it is very nice to have that space when you need it.
Host:
Were you telling me that Murphy bed companies have gotten better? It has been a couple of years since this came up, but I feel like you mentioned there are some really good manufacturers out there.
Mike:
There are a lot of options.
In my past in remodeling, when somebody said they wanted a Murphy bed, I groaned a little bit because it usually meant we had to order a bunch of parts and make something, and you did not know exactly if it was going to work out.
That system has been normalized now.
Most of the time now, homeowners handle that themselves. We might block things in the wall for them, but they are handling the kit. The kits are easy enough to install.
I am sure there is probably a Swedish company that makes those.
But there is another company I want to talk about.
Coincidentally, it is called Murphy Doors. If you have seen these, they are the kings of the hidden door, the bookshelf door, and things like that.
If you want to go down a rabbit hole, go on their website or Facebook page and look at these things.
Most of the time, if we are doing a hidden door, we are not buying their full cabinet. We are not having them make us a cabinet for a few reasons, mostly because of the materials they use. We may want custom sizes, custom looks, or to match finishes with things that are already there.
But we can buy their hardware.
I do not want to say it is easy to use, but it is very doable for us.
We have one coming up that will be about a six-foot-wide double bookcase. The double bookcase is basically a French door.
I am trying to talk the homeowner into doing the kind where you pull a book, like in a 1920s movie, and it opens.
There are also hidden switches and really cool hardware. You can reach up underneath the shelf and push a button. If your shelves are stained, the button can be stained to match the shelves, so you would not see it at first glance unless you knew it was there.
Host:
As we go down this avenue, are people asking for personal escapes? Life is chaotic and hectic, and it feels like a lot is demanded of everyone.
Are people creating retreats or places where they can say, “This is my space,” or a grown-up space where they can open the door, close the door, sit down, have a cocktail, or decompress?
Mike:
We are seeing that a little bit.
We have a library room coming up that will be pretty much all custom-made in our shop. I love stuff like that.
I think we need spaces where we can get away.
One we did a couple of years ago was in a basement on the near west side of Madison. It was a very big basement finish. We had already worked on the house two or three times.
Because of COVID, the guy in the couple, who is an executive for a company in town, ended up in a basement office. It was more like already finished basement space, and he decided he was going to spend at least half his time down there going forward.
He actually had us build a hallway into his room.
That is counterintuitive. Usually we are trying to get rid of hallways because we see them as wasted space. But this made the room about 10 feet farther away from the finished space.
He probably wanted to get away from everyone.
He set it up for gaming, and he has a beautiful office in there. We did some really nice custom touches to make it feel better.
Host:
If you can imagine it, it can be done.
That is part of the fun of remodeling and doing a basement project. You can turn that basement into anything but boring.
If you are thinking about a basement project, it is a great day to call Edge Construction at 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
Edge Construction brings you the Home Remodeling Show right here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
Mike, this fits perfectly into our conversation about basements, but one of these weeks we should do a show on what people used to call man caves. I do not know if that term is still a thing, but maybe personal rooms, escape rooms, parent rooms, or decompression spaces.
Mike:
It is super fun for us to build stuff like that.
I understand why the trend is toward flex space. It probably makes more sense to make a room that can do more than one thing, from a practical standpoint.
But I think there is a little mini-trend coming where people say, “I want to make this exactly like the picture in my head.”
Host:
You were talking earlier about stairs.
This fits into basements. I think about the work you do at Edge Construction, and I often think of main-floor staircases and how beautiful those projects are.
Basements, as you mentioned, especially older basements, often had very utilitarian staircases.
Are people taking time to do something special with basement staircases? Or are they still a little more utilitarian?
Mike:
Not as much.
The carpenter in me wants to see a staircase when I walk into a house. I want to see something that took some effort.
Host:
The grandeur.
Mike:
Right. It does not have to be Victorian Age and crazy, but a staircase can be a good focal point upstairs.
Most of the time, basement stairs have been more like a tunnel. You go down this tunnel, there is a door at the end, and then you are in the finished space.
We try to open them up when we can. Especially if we are building the basement out, we want that stairway to be as open as possible.
There are ways to do that without going over the top.
Host:
I have seen projects where you do cool things under the stairs. If we are talking about the basement as an area that can be unique, the space under the stairs seems like a fun opportunity.
I have seen projects where you use that space as a playhouse, wine storage, or something else.
Mike:
Wine storage is a good example.
It is sort of an odd space. It is not really great for shelves because the stairs angle down. What are you going to do — get on your hands and knees and put stuff on those shelves?
We have done wine storage because there are self-contained wine fridges that can hold hundreds of bottles of wine and fit in that space. They keep the bottles at the right temperature and protect them.
For people who are really into that, it is a nice option.
For us, it takes almost no effort. We put power back there and make sure there is enough room to get the unit in.
Sometimes the stairwell is in the middle of finished space. If your house has a stairway in the middle of the house, maybe a U-shaped stairway, you end up with that space, and it feels wasteful not to try to do something with it.
We have done kids’ rooms in there. You have to be under four feet tall to get in, let’s say. We have painted the drywall with chalkboard paint so kids can draw with chalk. It is a little cubby or hideaway.
We did one recently where it was a hideaway for cats. I never got in there after it was done to see if the cats actually went in there. I hope they do because it took quite a bit of effort.
That area is fun to customize. People have come up with great ideas, and Houzz is a great clearinghouse for those ideas.
Host:
That is a really fun use of space, and that is one of the exciting aspects of basements. You never know what you are going to come up with.
There are also things that are necessary in a basement. A lot of homes have utilities like water heaters and furnaces down there. That sounds utilitarian, but it is an important part of design to make sure those areas stay functional, isn’t it?
Mike:
It is.
In anything over 20 or 30 years old, we are probably fixing some past sins down there, whether it is something simple like insulation or plumbing.
It is not uncommon for us to find several different types of plumbing pipe tied together. Maybe it started with galvanized, then went to copper, then PVC, then red and blue PEX-style pipe.
At some point, it is time to clean that up.
I really do not like leaving galvanized pipe in people’s basements. If you want to be grossed out, open that pipe and look inside. It looks like something nasty has grown in there.
A lot of people who watch remodeling shows think the problems are always that we open up a wall and find something unsupported. Once in a while we find that, but it is not as common as you think.
It is really common for us to open up a wall or look at the electrical work in the house and find surprises. A lot of those surprises are electrical.
In the life of a house, somebody always has a brother, uncle, dad, husband, or whoever who has messed with electricity, added onto circuits, or put in another outlet. That stuff needs to be fixed too. We do not want to cover up anything we find there.
Host:
Electricity seems so scary.
I know my limit. Aside from switching a light switch or something, I will not touch it.
Mike:
What is interesting with electrical work is that the more you know, the more you think, “I am going to leave this to someone who knows what they are doing.”
The process of adding an outlet somewhere may not be that big a deal, but my own brothers have done this, and I have asked them if they are sure they know what they are doing.
We are an electrical contractor, so I am familiar with what is right or wrong most of the time.
Like I said, half the work down there is behind the walls and behind the ceiling, and we want to make sure we are up to date on things.
Host:
Do we still see laundry in the basement? Where does the laundry room stand these days?
Mike:
That is kind of funny.
For so long, it has been ingrained in us that we have to have a first-floor laundry.
The past few years, we have done three or four projects a year where we are putting the laundry down in the basement.
The reason is that you have space.
We see pictures online with nice, big, open laundries. Most of the time, the first floor is not built for that. You would have to lose a bedroom or something.
Homeowners are saying, “Yes, I have to bring my stuff up and down the stairs, but I can have the laundry I want down there.”
We have done some very cool laundries. I cannot cook, but I can wash clothes, so I appreciate that one.
Host:
It seems like laundry went from down to up, and now back down again.
Mike:
The great majority of thinking is still upstairs, or maybe both. It is not like we are taking out the upstairs laundry. We may just be doing another one in the basement.
Host:
We have not even talked about lighting, which feels like a whole other show on basements. We could do 100 shows on lighting.
But I want to ask about bathrooms. Do we see full baths going into basements? What got me thinking about this is that I have seen people put tubs in laundry rooms for pets. If you have an active dog and it is muddy season, you do not want to run them through the house. You can go downstairs and hose them down.
Are we seeing that type of plumbing?
Mike:
Sometimes, but it is kind of rare.
A lot of times, when we are doing a basement bath, it is a walk-in shower. It is pretty common now to have a handheld showerhead in there too. It is a great place to haul your muddy kid or muddy pet in there and wash some of that down the drain.
One interesting thing with basement baths is that for a long time, they were very utilitarian and plain-looking. If you look at the ones we have done in the past few years, it is pretty common now to have tile and nicer things down there.
I like that trend. I understand why people do things the way they do, but I also want something nice to look at. I want the feel to be right.
You have more options with tile than you do with some surrounds, and that is pretty cool.
Host:
If you are thinking about doing a basement project and want to know what goes into the design and planning, it is a great day to call Edge Construction and start that conversation.
Call 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
You can learn more online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
More of the Home Remodeling Show with Edge Construction is next right here on 1310 WIBA.
Host:
This is the Home Remodeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction. You can find them online at EdgeConstructionCompany.com. That is all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com.
This week, we are talking about basements, basement remodeling, and some of the great things that go into basement design.
Mike, before we wrap up this week, I know you see a variety of basements: older, newer, complete remodels, and projects that start with poured walls and a concrete slab.
When you first address that space, things like water barriers and insulation may not sound fun to talk about, but there are less glamorous things that are vital to a successful long-term basement remodel, aren’t there?
Mike:
Yes.
Because you are wearing rose-colored glasses at first. You have been looking online, and you see all these great spaces.
Then I come in and say, “You have three cracks in your basement. We need to address that.”
We have had some big rains in recent years. The last half of this summer has been pretty dry, but I want to know how long you have lived there. In my head, I am trying to evaluate whether you have been there long enough to know if your basement is going to have a leak somewhere.
Sometimes there is evidence of that. I can look at the floor and say, “I can see where something was cleaned up here.”
We need to talk about egress, too.
Drain tile companies have been working overtime in the past few years, doing drain tile around older basements. That is not a gimmick or a ripoff. Most of the time, it needs to be done unless you are on a gravel hill and have very little risk of moisture coming in.
You do not want to make this investment in your basement unless you know those problems are solved.
Host:
You mentioned older homes and getting that drain tile. Are newer homes more watertight, or is there still room for a conversation about drain tile and other moisture protection?
Mike:
There are builders in town that I am familiar with. I know how they do waterproofing, who they use, and what their warranties are. They will fill you in on all that.
I still want to make sure I am doing my due diligence. If there are problems, you can bet I am going to point them out.
Host:
One final thing: earlier, we talked about heat, but we did not touch much on insulation. Insulation is needed in a basement, isn’t it?
Mike:
It is.
On new builds where you have a couple inches of rigid insulation on the outside of your foundation, it meets the R-value requirement. Technically, you do not have to insulate the inside.
I still think it is a really good idea because, like I said earlier, you are in a 55-degree hole in the ground. Whatever you can do to insulate yourself from the dirt outside is worth doing.
Concrete is never warm when you put your hand on it. It is always chilly. You want to separate yourself from that.
Host:
You never hear anybody complain about a more comfortable space.
If you are thinking about making that comfortable space, today is a great day to pick up the phone and call Edge Construction.
Mike and the team would love to work with you. Their telephone number is 608-636-3343. That number is 636-EDGE.
The website is EdgeConstructionCompany.com.
Edge Construction brings you the Home Remodeling Show right here on 1310 WIBA.